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How to Convert an Atheist Part 1

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Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... In several years of debating atheism and theism, I have made an observation. Ask any believer what would convince him he was mistaken and persuade him to leave his religion and become an atheist, and if you get a response, it will almost invariably be, "Nothing - I have faith in my god." Although such people may well exist, I personally have yet to meet a theist who would acknowledge even the possibility that his belief was in error. Many theists, by their own admission, structure their beliefs so that no evidence could possibly disprove them. In short, they are closed-minded, and have been taught to be closed-minded. In light of this, it is ironic that atheists are often accused of being the closed-minded ones. Fundamentalist very frequently claim that we have hardened hearts, we are dogmatic and irrational, and that we reject God based on preconceived bias. Such claims result from psychological projection. Incapable of coping with the fact that there are some people who genuinely do not believe in their god, these theists simply deny that such people exist, and instead insist that everyone thinks the same way they do. Therefore, people who reach different conclusions than them must have some secret ulterior motive for not believing. This is truly ridiculous, but unfortunately, some people really believe it. Thus, in the spirit of proving that the atheist's mind is not closed, I've assembled a list of what I would accept as proof that a given religion is true. Also included are things that I would accept as circumstantial evidence of a particular religion's truth and things that would not be acceptable to me as proof of anything. While I do not claim to speak for all atheists, I would confidently say that any religion that could produce one of the things from the first list would probably gain a great number of converts. To be fair, I invite all theists to respond by preparing a list of things that they would accept as proof that atheism is true. If any theist prepares such a list please post it. The first category deals with things that would absolutely convince me of the truth of a particular religion. If shown any of these, I would convert on the spot. Verified, specific prophecies that could not have been contrived. If the prophecy is vague, unclear or garbled (like Nostradamus' ramblings, for example). It must be detailed, specific and unambiguous in its prediction and wording. If the prophecy is trivial, anyone could predict that it will be cold next winter, or that this drought/plague/flood will eventually subside. The prophecy must predict something surprising, unlikely or unique. If the prophecy is obviously contrived for other reasons, No official seer or court astrologer ever predicted that the king he worked for would be a brutal, evil tyrant who would ruin the country. If the prophecy is self-fulfilling; i.e., if the mere fact of the prophecy's existence could cause people to make it come true, The Jewish people returned to their homeland in Israel just as the Bible said they would, but this isn't a genuine prediction - they did it because the Bible said they would. The predicted event can't be one that people could stage. If the prophecy predicts an event that already happened and the writing of the prophecy itself can't be shown to have preceded the event. If the prophecy predicts an event that already happened and the happening of that event can't be verified by independent evidence. For example, Christian apologists claim that Jesus fulfilled many Old Testament prophecies, but the authors of the New Testament obviously had access to those prophecies also; what would have prevented them from writing their story to conform to them? The extra-biblical evidence for the existence of Jesus is so scanty that it is impossible to disprove such a proposal. And finally, if the prophecy is the lone success among a thousand failures, anyone can throw prophecies against a wall until one sticks. The book or other source from which it comes must have at least a decently good record on other predictions. These conditions, are reasonable, and are only what would be expected of a true prophet with a genuine gift. Scientific knowledge in holy books that was not available at the time.

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Uploaded: April 18, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Author: FightingAtheist

Length: 08:24
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b1randon12 (October 15, 2008 at 10:37 pm)
You sound smug. Im not a "believer" either, but holy shit, let them believe if they want to. I dont think they care if you "convert on the spot", dude. Get over yourself.
jsrzdq (October 15, 2008 at 8:27 pm)
Things exist in physical terms or as concepts. Then god exists as a concept as it has no physical effect on anything. Like Santa, he makes kids happy. Let people who need god make them happy. If the problem is heaven and hell, why would god create something to prize it or punish it knowing its imperfect behavior? Either he is illogic or cynical and in neither case i would support it. Religions are equally positive (love etc) than negative (Inquisition. Its just matter of choice
Shutitup18 (October 15, 2008 at 8:14 pm)
This video makes a ton of sense. I'm Roman Catholic yet I'm very laid back in my beliefs and I don't think you need Christ to get into heaven; all you have to do is be a good person and be respectful and you'll get into heaven. I almost became an atheist so I am very much so accuanted with the mindset; atheists are very good people who while they don't feel there is a spirtual force respect religion as a whole and do good deeds.
Preacha1111 (October 15, 2008 at 8:13 pm)
nihilist? its never gonna happen buddy
howboutsome (October 15, 2008 at 7:48 pm)
you cant convert a atheist cuz god press him heart when he gonna believe, its explain in the quran
DirgeOfCerberus (October 15, 2008 at 7:35 pm)
Yeah I'm a Nihilist, try converting that. oblivion is pretty much all religions. Your just going to rot. Nuff said.
tnmtemerity (October 15, 2008 at 6:45 pm)
Why should we care that you will never have faith? I mean I should feel bad for putting you down but, you haven't made any really shocking arguments here. It just seems like you think your more important than reality proves you to be.
supercomet32 (October 15, 2008 at 5:32 pm)
till youve seen it there is no $1,000,000 for you it does you no good. sure soemone can spend a million on you then theres your proof someone spent the million on you but a milllion lying in a bank somewhere doesnt prove shit. in a court of law evidence is something which removes doubt and is verifiable...no bible i sverifiable.
yakitoriPB (October 15, 2008 at 5:24 pm)
Every single human is born athiest. Religion is learned ideology. And a fact is....many people that are now atheist were, at one time in their life, in one religion or another.
rafikjaan (October 15, 2008 at 4:44 pm)
you cant convert noone. only Allah can

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